Judiciary Committee Hearing
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - Gardner Auditorium
State House, Boston, MA

Contents

Summary of the Judiciary Committee Hearing
Testimony by MFI President Kris Mineau
Quotations from other Testimony

“Bathroom Bill” heard by Judiciary Committee

The Joint Committee on the Judiciary met yesterday to hear testimony on more than 200 bills, including the “bathroom bill,” HB 1728. Those wishing to testify were invited to sign-up starting at 10:30 am, with the hearing scheduled to begin at 12 Noon. Though members of the Committee began arriving around Noon, the hearing itself did not start until at least a half-hour later.
 
The first two hours or so were dominated by legislators, district attorneys and other elected officials wishing to testify on the bills before the committee. They did not begin accepting testimony from citizens until after 2:00 pm, putting the day well behind schedule and pushing exclusive testimony on HB 1728 until nearly 4 o’clock.
 
The co-chairs of the Committee, Rep. Eugene O’Flaherty (D-Charlestown) and Sen. Cynthia Stone Creem (D-Newton), were even-handed in their handling of those giving testimony from both sides of the issues. It was obvious that Sen. Creem was inclined to support our opponents, while Rep. O’Flaherty was more skeptical. Rep. O’Flaherty made it clear from the beginning that the Committee would not allow rude or snide comments from either people testifying or those in the audience, responding to snickering from homosexual activists upon one citizen citing the “homosexual agenda” in his testimony.
 
Testimony on the “bathroom bill” began with the two legislative sponsors of the bill, Rep. Carl Sciortino (D-Somerville) and Sen. Benjamin Downing (D-Pittsfield), delivering remarks in support of the bill, followed by MFI President Kris Mineau speaking against it. The format of having an individual or panel from one side testify, followed by the same from the other side, was more or less held to throughout this segment of the hearing.
 
“HB 1728, the bathroom bill, would allow men access to women’s restrooms, locker rooms and health facilities, compromising the safety, privacy and modesty of all citizens,” Mineau told the committee. “While laws exist to prosecute those who commit crimes that take place in bathrooms, HB 1728 puts women and children at risk of assault because men as a group cannot be questioned beforehand or curtailed from entering women’s rest facilities. General laws should ensure the safety, privacy and protection of all citizens.”
 
Among the most important panels testifying against the “bathroom bill” were MFI’s legal panel, featuring three attorneys, one of our education panels, featuring a school committee member and a former school principal and superintendent, and our mental health professionals panel, featuring a psychiatrist, a sexual assault nurse, and a family therapy councilor.
 
The lawyers, all members of the Alliance Defense Fund, lent their legal expertise to arguments countering claims from the bill’s supporters that the bill would not impact bathrooms, locker rooms and school facilities. "The First Amendment mandates that no individual should be required to affirm, in act, word, or deed, that a man is a woman, or a woman is a man, against their sincerely held religious beliefs," ADF attorney Timothy Tracey said. "Yet this is precisely what (the bill) will do."
 
Throughout the hearing, members of both the House and the Senate had to leave their committee positions to take roll call votes, since both chambers were having formal sessions. In one memorable moment, Rep. O’Flaherty suspended the hearing while House members voted because MFI’s attorneys were in mid-testimony and committee members wanted to hear what they had to say.
 
“This proposed legislation affects the entire school community by impacting bathrooms and locker rooms for all students,” North Reading School Committee member Maureen Vacca said, speaking with 15 years of experience on the school committee, as well as raising 3 students. “It does nothing to strengthen a school’s ability to protect students from violence. Mixing anatomy in public restrooms is a prescription for trouble.”
 
David L. Stormberg, M.D., a psychiatrist in private practice, addressed the true central issue in the whole debate: gender-identity disorder and those suffering with it. “Tragically, this bill if passed will represent our society’s abandonment of those persons who suffer with a gender identity disorder,” Dr. Stormberg said in his written testimony. “This bill suggests that there is no disorder and therefore undercuts any hope for healing that someone with this trouble might have.”
 
Unfortunately, the hearing dragged on well past the 6:00 pm expected end time, with some people still waiting to testify after 10 o’clock in the evening. Some important panels, including two featuring educators, as well as two featuring college and high school students, were not called before the participants had to leave to return to their normal lives, taking care their children and family. Though unable to deliver testimony in person, these citizens will have their voices heard through written testimony delivered to the Committee.
 
With the large volume of bills the Judiciary Committee has been charged with deciding upon this session, it is not known when the Committee will vote to pass HB 1728 out of Committee with an “Ought to Pass” or “Ought Not to Pass,” or instead decide to kill it by sending it to a “study.” Some insiders believe such a vote could come in September or October.
 
Though the hearing has now passed, our lobbying efforts will continue, as should yours. If you have not yet contacted the Judiciary Committee, please take some time to do so today. Click Here to send an email to the members, or Click Here to make a phone call. Judging by the turnout at the hearing yesterday, we are running even with our opponents insofar as grassroots involvement.
 

Testimony of Kris Mineau, President
Massachusetts Family Institute
Before the Judiciarty Committee In Opposition to HB 1728


Massachusetts Family Institute is a public policy institute dedicated to strengthening families in the Commonwealth. Because tens of thousands of sociological studies identify the nuclear family as the single best environment for the procreation and nurturing of children, human sexuality is a most significant issue to us. I thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today in opposition to House Bill 1728, an Act Relative to Gender Based Discrimination and Hate Crimes.

This radical legislation would remove gender restrictions from public access restrooms, locker rooms and fitness facilities-compromising the safety, privacy and modesty of all citizens. HB 1728 would legally require public schools at all levels to allow boys and girls to choose for themselves which rest room or locker room they wish to use, based on an ill-defined concept of gender expression, with no medical or legal basis. Last week a public grammar school in Maine was found to be in violation of that state's Transgender Rights Law because they did not allow a fifth-grade boy to use the girl's bath room. The Maine public school system is now grappling with how this ruling is to be implemented.

Two recent incidents of bathroom stalking by men at Boston University and on Cape Cod make the notion of legalizing entry by men into women's bathrooms not a hypothetical matter but one of legitimate concern -Massachusetts has over 10,000 registered sex offenders. While laws exist to prosecute those who commit crimes that take place in bathrooms, HB1728 puts women and children at substantial additional risk of assault because men as a group cannot be questioned beforehand or curtailed from entering women's rest facilities.

Proprietors of public accommodations are already prohibited from discriminating against persons of any sex, or sexual orientation, in the full enjoyment of accommodations offered to the general public. The current law has exceptions for single-sex rest rooms, bathhouses, seashore facilities, fitness facilities, corporations established for the benefit of a single sex, and single-sex rooming houses. HB 1728 would override all those exceptions. Nothing would prevent a sexual predator from pretending that he is confused about his sex to gain access to vulnerable women and children in public restrooms, which should be safe spaces for their accommodation and health.

This bill would add the vague terminology of "gender identity or expression" to the state ban on sex discrimination. The bill says, "The term 'gender identity or expression' shall mean a gender-related identity, appearance, expression, or behavior of an individual, regardless of the individual's assigned sex at birth." There is no generally accepted definition for "gender" or "expression," which would cause chaos in the inevitable swirl of litigation, as activists press for access to the most private spaces of the opposite sex.

The word "gender" (as opposed to "sex") is dangerously vague. It refers to socially constructed roles unrelated to biology. The term denies immutable biological differences between the sexes and places women and children at risk from biological males.

Transgenderism is classified as a disorder by the American Psychiatric Association in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Under this bill, if a father and his young daughter went to a public accommodation and the young girl needed to use the ladies room, her own father could not go in with her, but a man claiming a gender identity disorder could.

HB 1728 also deletes protection from discrimination the categories of genetic information, children, marital status, veteran status or membership in the armed services, and the receiving of public assistance. Public policy should not allow an infinitesimally small percentage of the population with a psychiatric disorder to use whatever public restroom or bathhouse they want, while simultaneously removing protection of families with children, veterans and people on public assistance.

Massachusetts General Laws should ensure the safety, privacy and protection of all citizens. HB1728 presumes to protect five one hundredth of a percent of the population who feel more comfortable using a rest room of the opposite biological sex, while compromising the safety, privacy and modesty of 99.95% of citizens

For these reasons of public safety and well-being, we recommend the Joint Committee issue an unfavorable report on House Bill 1728.


Kristian M. Mineau
President

Quotations from Citizens Opposing HB1728


"Permitting anybody into any restroom or locker room does not make the world less discriminatory. What it does do is prevent me and other young women from using a public bathroom, locker room, or shower room without fear or embarrassment."
Katie Grayton
Age 17, resident of Methuen


"Adequate safeguards for our students are not provided in this bill. Quite simply put, this bill is a recipe for disaster and student abuse, not to mention laying additional financial and human burdens on school staff. But most importantly, it will put the emotional and physical health of our youngest children at risk."
Deborah Furtado
Elementary school teacher in New Bedford for 36 years


"It is difficult enough to control student behavior, prevent discrimination for all students, and ensure the safety of all students without having to distinguish between truth and a lie of some student claiming, at will, a gender-identity other than their assigned sex at birth, simply to gain access to the opposite at birth sex locker-rooms, showers, or lavatory facilities."
Joseph Martins
Former, Superintendent of Schools, Fall River


"The bill would grant overly-inclusive civil rights protection, extending far beyond persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery or therapy. The bill guarantees opposite-sex entry [into restrooms] as a 'civil right' whenever an individual merely asserts that, at the time of entry, the single-sex facility's designation is consistent with his or her 'gender identity, regardless of the individual's assigned sex at birth.' Individuals who object would be required to share intimate quarters with persons of the opposite biological sex where partial or full disrobing occurs."

Phil Moran, Esq.
Attorney in private practice, Salem

"To pass into law supposed protections based on an extremely vague and most likely unconstitutional description of a classified mental illness is irresponsible at best and can serve no other purpose than to muddy the waters of already confusing 'hate crimes' legislation."
Christen M. Varley, Holliston
Young mother and school volunteer

"Life is about choices. I have chosen to protect the weak and seek justice for the innocent. As I appear before you today, we can see the danger or we can wait until after the disaster to cry. I am a positive person, but I am asking that you give a negative 'no' to the bill HB 1728."
Karen Petty
Retired registered nurse

"The bill not only opens the door to dangerous law and regulation changes concerning public places, it also discriminates against those who are offended or threatened by such changes by cutting off many avenues of defense against the abuse of such laws and regulations. If the changes suggested by HB 1728 are put into practice, we will see the door of our Commonwealth opened for the following to become common occurrences: instruction of privacy, including implicit, covert, or over sexual harassment; abuse of access, including sexual or other physical assult."
Will Eifler, Cambridge

"House Bill 1728 would threaten the comfort and pschological state of women of my generation and older who were not raised in a unisex world ... This change in how we as a society accord privacy and respect to the opposite sex will cause great anxiety in the women I know who would see it as a step backward into a less civilized state. Mothers would be afraid to let their little boys go into a public men's room and fathers would fear sending their daughters into a ladies room which could harbor a predator posing as a transgendered person."
Christine Funnell, Medford
Mother, former teacher and future grandparent

"It is not what is in your head that determines what restroom you use; it's what is in your pants that determines the matter. It has been that way since day one."
Ralph Filicchia, Watertown
Husband, father and grandfather

"[W]e decided to raise our children here in large part because of Massachusetts's excellent schools. But now I am gravely conserned for my children's future in these Massachusetts schools, given the very likely consequences of this legislation, if it were enacted."
Margaret Woolley Busse, Acton
Harvard Business School graduate and mother of four

"I do not want my kids to be traumatized! I don't want them to be afraid whenever they need to use a restroom or workout facility ... It's always been my impression that our legislators and government officials were supposed to provide for the Common Good, not the Uncommon Good."
Ed Sharib, Natick
Husband and father

"Our job as parents, grandparents, teachers, pediotricians and most importantly those of you who have the privilege to be lawmakers, is to protect those that can not protect themselves: our children. Please do not pass this bill for it does not protect those it is intending to protect, but actually harms those that need the most protection: our children and grandchildren, our nieces and nephews, as well as our mothers and wives."
Kim Incampo, North Andover
Working mother of two